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#1 2005-05-03 21:39:34

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YES Linux 3 Requirements

The topic holds the requirements for YES Linux 3. 

There is no implied priority or weight given to any requirement. 

Also note that there is no gaurentee implied or stated that any or all of these requirements will be met.

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#2 2005-05-03 21:42:06

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Re: YES Linux 3 Requirements

Ability to support more than one database natively out of the box, specifically postgresql and mysql.

Although multiple database need to be supported only one database should be installed on the machine.  This should be an install decision.

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#3 2005-05-03 21:42:53

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Re: YES Linux 3 Requirements

Ability to run a live demo of YES Linux that wont destroy the machine.

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#4 2005-05-03 21:46:38

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Re: YES Linux 3 Requirements

An authentication and authorization service that is enterprise grade, easily pluggable in most thirdparty server software and languages (email, http, java, php, python, perl, ruby, mono, etc...).

It is understood that there can be know one package that will cover all software but this system should cover the 80/20 rule and use best pratices.

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#5 2005-05-03 21:48:30

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Re: YES Linux 3 Requirements

A configuration service that can be dynamically modified.  Allowing external services e.g. (the build system, installation, administration, etc.) to dynamically effect services (custom builds) without directly affecting other services.

A services type distribution.

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#6 2005-05-03 21:49:52

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Re: YES Linux 3 Requirements

initial installation service (iis) that allows for advanced users to customize there install parameters.  For example the ability to configure the harddrive. While still having the default option that does all the leg work if needed, as it currently does.

Add the ability to preform network installs.

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#7 2005-05-03 21:51:20

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Re: YES Linux 3 Requirements

Ability to evolve YES Linux from a browser, ie (Install, Updade, Delete Services).  Users should never need there iso image after the initial install.  All updates should be remote on a product base.

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#8 2005-05-03 22:36:23

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Re: YES Linux 3 Requirements

initial installation service (iis) that allows for advanced users to customize there install parameters.  For example the ability to configure the harddrive. While still having the default option that does all the leg work if needed, as it currently does.

Add the ability to preform network installs.

PLUS

Ability to only install the services needed during initial install using iis. For example if the user chooses to use mysql then the only database installed will be mysql.

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#9 2005-05-04 21:08:22

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Re: YES Linux 3 Requirements

Ability to install an im service.

Ability to install a groupware service, that can integrate with the authentication service.

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#10 2005-05-05 01:46:03

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Re: YES Linux 3 Requirements

What if there are two ISO one for PG other  for MySQL? This will help reduce the size of ISO [ not an issue ]  but user will not be confronted with making choices.

I think the original idea of what ever is included works should be retained. Giving the options will only confuse the original target users.

Those who know their way [ support providers ] for them to add or remove some thing is not an issue IMHO.

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Ability to only install the services needed during initial install using iis. For example if the user chooses to use mysql then the only database installed will be mysql.

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#11 2005-05-05 21:24:24

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Re: YES Linux 3 Requirements

What if there are two ISO one for PG other  for MySQL? This will help reduce the size of ISO [ not an issue ]  but user will not be confronted with making choices.

I think the original idea of what ever is included works should be retained. Giving the options will only confuse the original target users.

Those who know their way [ support providers ] for them to add or remove some thing is not an issue IMHO.


Ability to only install the services needed during initial install using iis. For example if the user chooses to use mysql then the only database installed will be mysql.

This is true and i agree, but if we have two isos for database, then wouldn't it be equally fair to say we have an iso that doesn't contain squid and one that does? This is just an example there could be other software that falls into this.  The main point i am trying to make is that i believe that currently YES can install to much software in certain instances and i think it would be nice to be able to control it.  I'm not saying at a fine granularity, more course than that, say at a services level.  I really want YES 3 to be a service based OS.

I definitely like the idea of trimming the iso even more.

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#12 2005-05-05 21:30:02

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Re: YES Linux 3 Requirements

I think it would be nice to have an internal training system that helps explain YES Linux and how to use it.

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#13 2005-05-06 22:47:50

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Re: YES Linux 3 Requirements

I think it would be nice to have an internal training system that helps explain YES Linux and how to use it.

I think  this is major design  change. Out of 402 active  Linux Distro Project only YES is focussing upon building it like an appliance and clear  focus of it being usable for those who do not hold Degree in IT.

Why any one should need  to refer to a tutorial  if  Distro works like a toaster or tv. If any one does not like and can not do on his/her own then let them learn or  hire some one to do that for them.

How difficult it is to use Live  Linux ? Then NO reason for YES to be difficult either.

This is supposed to be  Kentuky Fried Chicken not some  Gourmet Chicken IMHO.

No harm in including tutorials but if one needs to refer to tutorial even to install then IMHO  some thing is seriously wrong or I am missing the  point.

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#14 2005-05-07 04:31:29

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Re: YES Linux 3 Requirements

I think it would be nice to have an internal training system that helps explain YES Linux and how to use it.

I think  this is major design  change. Out of 402 active  Linux Distro Project only YES is focussing upon building it like an appliance and clear  focus of it being usable for those who do not hold Degree in IT.

Why any one should need  to refer to a tutorial  if  Distro works like a toaster or tv. If any one does not like and can not do on his/her own then let them learn or  hire some one to do that for them.

How difficult it is to use Live  Linux ? Then NO reason for YES to be difficult either.

This is supposed to be  Kentuky Fried Chicken not some  Gourmet Chicken IMHO.

No harm in including tutorials but if one needs to refer to tutorial even to install then IMHO  some thing is seriously wrong or I am missing the  point.

Agreed it was just a thought

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#15 2005-05-08 05:49:17

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Re: YES Linux 3 Requirements

IMHO  if we  make  an online version just like  Khyberlinux so that people curious about Yes could see that before  going ahead with install. This will save  all the effort in testing some thing which  majority of real users of YES Linux will not use.

This is after all an appliance, and it must be used smile in real life before forming any opinion..

If there are volunteers  who can make  a Live  version  then nothing like it, if it means you then NO.

Ability to run a live demo of YES Linux that wont destroy the machine.

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#16 2005-05-08 06:01:55

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Re: YES Linux 3 Requirements

A network install option  will be a good thing even now, beyond that  80/20 rule should apply.

initial installation service (iis) that allows for advanced users to customize there install parameters.  For example the ability to configure the harddrive. While still having the default option that does all the leg work if needed, as it currently does.

Add the ability to preform network installs.

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#17 2005-05-11 10:27:59

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Re: YES Linux 3 Requirements

Ability to easily translate into other languages and locales.

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#18 2007-01-29 12:24:31

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Re: YES Linux 3 Requirements

This is going to be move to the list server:

http://groups.google.com/group/yeslinux-dev

all future talks will be done there

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